Hedera ecosystem Twitter Spaces hosted by Hello Future Buzz featuring N2 Solutions and HashPack (Part 2)

In this week's HelloFutureBuzz Twitter Spaces, N2 Solutions joins us to speak about their new application being built for ServiceNow freelancers. In collaboration with HashPack, N2 Solutions is leveraging the Hedera network to offer memberships and traceability of the ServiceNow freelancers.

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Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yeah, well, we're set. We're setting up a call for next month in a European Time Zone, which is easier for people in France and England to attend. So, we look forward to that with him. But, um, I was just on a general question. To step back a minute, Nicola, how did you get involved in ServiceNow? What led, what was the path that led you to work on that platform?

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍Oh, my story with David Snow is because I am a process expert, if I may say so, for more than 20 years. So, I'm used to implementing processes for IT organizations. And one of the platforms which leverages and makes this process even now automated is ServiceNow. ServiceNow has been booming in recent years. And that's how it's, it's just by chance, and I would say that I got to know ServiceNow. And from ServiceNow, I got to know Hedera. So, the story is the following:

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yeah, I was on, I don't know if it was ServiceNow, but I saw a map of all the nodes and all the activity that was going on in the ServiceNow global network. I mean, do you have any idea how many users ServiceNow has? Oh, there's got to be, I mean, there's millions and millions of users.

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍They are the Fortune 100, thousand, I don't know, on ServiceNow. So, all the big names of the industry are using ServiceNow. And first, ServiceNow was really, fit for IT process. So, basically, if you have an incident on your computer and you create a ticket for that, it would have been ServiceNow will under it. But now, ServiceNow covers the full workflow of a company, which is basically booking a desk when you go to work or complaining about anything which is internal, managing your remain resource process, managing your compliance, your security. So, the potential of ServiceNow is basically anything you like to automate. You can automate with ServiceNow. And it's really set for large organizations. And you can develop local apps on ServiceNow. That's what we do. We are developing a specific app on ServiceNow to manage our workflow integrated to Hedera. And we are already thinking of possible use cases when we could also sell this app internally because managing a freelancer card could be also tomorrow managing an employee card and rewarding employees for the country ocean internally, and so on. So, yeah, ServiceNow is really interesting because it puts us in the hearts of traditional companies, but we could bring a web tree there.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍That's interesting that when you look at your business managing with the freelancer area of ServiceNow services that you would provide them, what kind of go-to-market? How many freelancers are there around that you could gather into your system?

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍The potential we have estimated to 1,000 freelancers to 2,000. So, it's not huge, but It's enough to create a village. I like to say, our idea is to have a village of, freelancers who can talk about their passion about the same technology. Because when you put ServiceNow people together, they talk about ServiceNow for hours. And we like this idea. One village, one community, maybe with several areas where, because it's still 1000 people in the DAO, it will start to be interesting to manage. And coming back to the customer, usually, um, we have two types of customers. It's either ServiceNow customer who likes to have an independent person for an audit or to get advice on how to use better as a platform. Or it's traditional consulting company or ServiceNow integrator and need brain power, and will contact us because we are doing all the grocery work. And we don't need to deal with independent freelancers. They will come to us and say, 'Hey, you have the best, you have a good process,' and when we want to hire them, we can do it in a minute. And we don't have to make again an interview process to recruit a freelancer. That's our approach.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍I see we're very, a lot of the people in this call and in the space of Hedera are very familiar with GoMint. GoMint was the original NFT platform, and we're so excited that they still are innovating, and they've redid their UX for their platform. And, they're working with people like you now, and that's very nice to hear because I've always had a soft spot for GoMint. Just because they are such an OG implementer of Hedera. So, what was it like? You said they serviced your need in 10 days. Is that what you said about once you contacted GoMint?

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍Oh, yeah. I contacted the first May from HashPack to say, 'Do you know, oh, I think I post on the HashPack Discord, 'Hey, I need help, I hope there is a WordPress plugin.' And then, it was, sorry, I don't know his first name again, so it's a guy from GoMint. Um, we say, 'I'm here, I will help you.' And I just opened a test icon, I checked that he was a real human and not a scammer, of course. But then I put, um, I put my webmaster, which is in Bosnia, as they go in as they need would develop other websites together with GoMint. And it was during Christmas time, and 10 days after, they have already on testnet or something. And I think it was in production end of January. And what we love in Hedera is a community spirit. I mean, there is a kind of common spirit like people like to help each other, like to innovate. And this is interesting because my first three months going to the blockchain ecosystem when it was, because I was first thinking to build on Polygon Matic before knowing Hedera, and it was very hard to find people you could trust, not about Polygon. And so it's about the ecosystem of blockchain in general It was you. It's a bit scary because there are many, very many people who don't want to throw their faith and so on and so on, but with Adera, since we talked to Nicol Atico, May, GoMint, we had always cool people ready to help, and this spirit is amazing. So, that's, what I love.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Oh, that's really good to hear, Nicola. Because that's, I think, what all us Hbarbarians really pride ourselves in, is being helpful and welcoming to everybody new in the space, and trying to make build relationships and make things happen for each other. So, it's good to see that such, was it Alex Taylor from Gomint or Richard from.

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍It was Alex, and we had also a great collaboration with My Taskbar, um, because we are thinking about also why not having a Marketplace, and so, yeah, we have Alex from Reach out from My Taskbar.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍But, yeah, yeah, when I was researching your company today, I was thinking of Taskbar actually, uh, because the ability - I mean, this is a for your focus is ServiceNow, but the concept could be rolled out into many different communities. I like to think we're all little tribes, and we're building one big community, and the big community is, I like when you said it was a village, you know, you can say a little tribe or a village, and then the whole thing is like the, you know, the people of Hedera, you know, so that's really very exciting, and it's nice to see that, you know, you got such a welcoming - I mean, it's an amazing, I think we could all say that things happen - I mean, I've worked with Patches to make some things happen in 10 days, and it just, it's just really great to see when those kind of innovations happen, and everything just clicks. Right, and it just is a go, let's go, you know, so, let me just, switch gears just a moment, Nicola, and I'll introduce another project to you and to the Hbarbarians in general, which, one of our my favorite artists in Hedera is Ethan of Elysian Arts, and he has partnered up to make a Dragma Labs. So, Ethan, maybe you would like to introduce Dragma Labs to the community?

Dragma Labs – Ethan - Founder
‍Hey, thank you, thank you for those words. Actually, I would like to, , say,  which is basically them, the main guy, I am partnering with for Dragma Labs. He has a better voice, right, aside from Hadarian dragons, yes, yes. Uh, over these last past months, I think we became good friends, and we collided in a lot of stuff, and we wanted to do something great, and he bounced some ideas with me, and Dragma Labs was kind of like born. From some like small little eggs of ideas that uh, that he had, and so I'm very happy that this is happening, it's very exciting for the technological part and for the artistic part. It's, uh, it's a fascinating way that will empower artists to be able to, to web two artists to be able to finally have like a, a place where their assets can be gamified, and where they can have the, uh, exposure they have, but uh, but I think our website to continue to explain it a little bit more.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Well, thank you, Ethan. Yes, hello, Zion, thank you for coming to The Future Buzz: Tell us about your project.

Dragma Labs – Si - Founder
‍Hi everyone, great to be here again. Yeah, great to meet you guys from N2 as well. Uh, really interesting to hear you guys talk. Um, yeah, I guess, uh, and thanks Ethan as well. Yeah, we've become very good friends and we've kind of partnered up on this with some other friends in the space. We'll kind of introduce them later if you want, um, because we've got some really cool people involved, as well as other projects. Um, but yeah, I'm sorry, I'm the founder of Hederian Dragons originally, and now Drag My Labs which is, um, which has kind of been built in parallel with the Hederian Dragons and it's kind of mutated over time. Uh, the kind of ideas were some of the early ideas were born perhaps a year ago, and kind of a lot of idea other ideas have have kind of been pulled into it to just augment it. Um, so Dragon Labs is Hedera's, well, it's going to be Hedera's first kind of commerce gaming and entertainment platform. So that's where we're going to be evolving the use cases of the Hidarian Dragons utility token, Dragma. But also, we're going to be looking to bring use cases and fun and new value to all Hedera token service tokens, all on this one platform. So we're going to have a marketplace, a launchpad, gaming, and entertainment all in one place and all tied together by tokenization. And the idea is to really make a proper destination where people can go and have fun with tokens. Right? So you can earn tokens, you can win tokens, you can play games and have fun with that. You can then go and use those tokens in the marketplace to kind of onboard to new projects and really have fun with these things and try and kind of give a new lease of life to some of Hedera's tokens and a different level of liquidity that we don't quite have at the moment in Hedera's native tokens. So our Launchpad and Marketplace will be primary market only from the outset and we will be able to accept like creators will be able to accept any HTS token on the marketplace and launch pads. So that could be HBAR, USDC, Dragma, source, HBARX, whatever creator would like to accept, essentially. And we're hoping that should give a new kind of layer of utility to any and all projects essentially on Hedera. And yeah, that's going to all be tied through the Dragma collection of NFTs to our gaming and our other entertainment, where a percentage of the platform's revenue through the launchpad in the marketplace will be recirculated to the gaming treasury. And so, all these different kinds of tokens, HBAR and all the other HCS tokens that go through the site through having what a single NFT essentially you'll be able to kind of gently onboard and accumulate in many different projects whichever projects are using the platform in a very kind of easy way, and projects can also kind of bridge themselves to new users by Introducing the token and introducing token purchasables through the marketplace, etc. And yeah, as Ethan said, like the idea is we can really create an exciting place not just for collectors to start using their tokens more and have more liquidity, but also bring something really cool for creators to nucleate around. And potentially, we could be creating all kinds of things. We're gonna, we've got partners that are backing up the project as well from day one with their fundable tokens, but also with the commitment of contributing some of their development power. So we're going to be evolving all of our utility of our fungible tokens and benefiting all of our projects, but we're doing it in one place that the community can nucleate around.

Dragma Labs – Ethan - Founder
‍Yeah, something that we've noticed is that, for example, each project usually kind of like represents an island, and so it kind of gets a little bit isolated and it becomes like a lot of Island, and how I see it Dragon Ball left is a form of reunite all these islands and create a continent where we could bridge all the projects to a general place for them to work on. So I really love that idea.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yes, go ahead, Patches.

Turtle Moon – Patches - Founder
‍Very cool. Um, yeah, that's a really awesome description of what you guys are building. The question would be with fungible token usage, does it require a liquidity pool and like something like saucer swap or Heli swap in order for there to be an exchange rate that would allow the purchase to be calculated or, I guess what's the view on need of Liquidity pool or not for fungible token usage?

Dragma Labs – Si - Founder
‍So, uh, yeah, good question. We're with our initial partners. We've got 10 initial partners, and eight of them are bringing fungible tokens to the table, and each of them has their own kind of identity as a token, and each can be interpreted differently in terms of regulations, etc. And so that's one of the reasons why we're kind of sticking to the idea of them having utility on the platform. So, there won't be an ability to purchase tokens. We won't be enabling exchanges between tokens or kind of even really, I mean, we'd like to shed light on the dexes because, you know, they're there, and they're great, and people on Hedira and on the site should know about them, but we're not trying to really push the speculative element of them, but what you want to push is the use cases for them. So in theory, it's just a case of the initial founding partners, who come in, they're going to provide liquidity for the treasury so that we've got a nice, um, kind of wedge of rewards in reserve to put into gaming and other rewards competitions, things like that, for the community. But, we're not really looking to have an element of liquidity or trade of fungible tokens themselves, more so trade or fundable tokens for NFTs and for artwork and, potentially, merchandise and other kinds of things further down the line.

Turtle Moon – Patches - Founder
‍Super cool, yeah. Definitely feel free to reach out if you, if you have any like needs for data off the mainnet or anything for what you're constructing there because we'd love to help in any way if we could from Hgraph IO standpoint. But, really, really digging the vision and I think it's just another, another drop in the bucket of a cool functional platform that's possible through Hedera that our community is building, so it's really cool.

Dragma Labs – Si - Founder
‍Thank you, yeah. That means a lot obviously, and, yeah, that's the idea, really. Like, there's a lot of cool stuff happening on Hedera and there's not a lot of us here right now, but if we really start, you know, connecting the dots of all these amazing projects that we've got and all these amazing builders, what we can do is really shine a light on Hedera itself and create ecosystems and create functional places, destinations, and fun things that other networks just don't have. And not do it in a way that like we're trying to take control, but do it in a way that we're trying to empower everyone who's here, ensure that we've got longevity in the space moving forward. The partners that we've got, we've kind of chosen those partners because we know them very well, we trust them very well, and they're reputed builders, but that's open. We're willing to, we'd love to have as many partners as our NFT holders are willing to choose, basically, so that when we eventually kind of evolve the The Dragma Collection to a DAO, they will then be in charge of saying, "Okay, we're happy to kind of dilute the pool somewhat from the fact there's more holders, but we can introduce new partners and any number of partners so that this NFT really bridges any number of projects on Hedera, particularly those with tokens, obviously." And yeah, totally interesting. Like obviously, you've got this novel new concept for the for points and attaching them to NFTs and stuff like that, an again, like there's a we need to find a way to make that kind of thing compatible as well because this kind of compatibility and, you know, interoperability, this is what is going to make the network really fun. It's not just going to be NFTs satin wallets. It's just going to be fun.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍I think the fun aspect is really going to draw a lot of people into the ecosystem, and I know I've been, we've been talking a lot about community in the past two or three weeks on my spaces and on different spaces, and I think the one thing that, you know, we're, I'm so grateful and I think the community is grateful for, is the responsible govern uh, decentralized network that Hedera provides us with and then from the very beginning, uh, you know, even when I first was talking with Christian Hasker on Spaces, and we're talking about the marketing being decentralized, I mean, it's a very different concept. You know, with the ecosystems built by the community for the community, this is something that other networks/ ecosystems don't really have what Hedera community has. And I know a lot of talk about cross chains and bringing them into the ecosystem and things like that, but I really believe that if we, in the Hedera community, build and then reach out to others to introduce them to what we're building, I'm thinking maybe that's a better way to go than to go, you know, going into other ecosystems and partnering with them and bringing them into us. You know, I think by building really cool stuff like you're talking about, PSY, and I really love the whole ethos of N2 and what you're building, I think we're really going to see a lot of great use cases bringing in a lot of people into the Hedera ecosystem.

Dragma Labs – Si - Founder
‍That's the idea. Yeah, I would like to like emphasize that as well, like I can introduce some more of the team. Now obviously, we've got Ethan, he's one of our main 3D guys. He's got Justin down there, he's actually um, a full-time employee of Dovu, but he's been working on some of our development stuff for the marketplace and launchpad. Nigel from Bar Punks has been doing a lot of work for us, another amazing guy, and sorry, Felix, who did a little bit of work as well, he's been great. Um, and we've got numerous other people. I will actually announce today, which is like something I'm really, really pleased to announce, um, is is that Phil, um, Philippe Petu most of you guys will know him, he's joining us for business as our business development lead. So he's going to be helping us onboard new partners, new projects, new artists, web two artists for the launchpad, that kind of thing. I know that he's working with Hatograph Punks as well, so I'm hoping that we can turn that into a bridge so that we can just like build more and more together and tear down more walls. So emphasis is on using the community in a way that can bring as much benefit to the community as possible so that you know, we've got trustworthy people behind it and the people that have that are the seeds of this network that are building this network because no one else is doing it right. Like it's the people that are building us included who are building this network. We need to make sure that they do well in this space, and we can really create a platform that um, all those people can Leverage.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Absolutely and you know there's a couple of themes that I see repeated in the last two weeks, which is a really strong community and trust. We have established a community here, and I'm sorry Nikola went down to be a listener. You can come back up if you accept the invitation to speak, Nikola. But the trust that we have, by what you were saying, Psy, that you reached out to them in the beginning, and even what Nicola was saying, trust being, you know, he established that they weren't weirdos in the Discord, but we can all really take pride in that, that we're conducting ourselves like this. And throughout the years, you know, you do build a certain reputation of trust, and that's really great to when you do have an idea like this, Psy, you can call on those people that you have a trust level with and say, "Hey, do you want to work on this?" Instead of starting from scratch, saying, "Where am I going to get a developer?" You know, it's really very exciting.

Dragma Labs – Si - Founder
‍Exactly, exactly. And I'm sure that every day I bump into people who are kind of floating around the Hedera NFT space and in the Hedera space, absolutely loving it. And then they're just kind of putting out feelers like they want to build. And you know, if they're new to the space, they kind of look at it as like, "Oh, I'm just going to have to build something myself." Or like if there's something to latch onto, to hold onto, like if there's teams out there like Turtle Moon and the others out there that are building stuff, then they should know that the doors are open, and there's places they can go to build, and good teams that they can work with.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yeah, well, I think and you know, I'm not an expert on any other community other than knowing the Hedera community. So I can't really speak to what it's like to be a member of the Polygon community or that from that perspective. But I do know I have a long history in crypto and a long history in freelancing and technology, and this community is very different than a lot of other communities, and that's just a fact. We're not only smart and educated and well-rounded, but it's not, it's not a, it I really think comes from Leemon and Mance, to be quite honest with you, that they built Hedera to make the world a better place. And when Leemon says it's our, we can shape what how we want the network to be, when Christian says we can develop the community to how we want it to be, that's really decentralization. A decentralized governing council, I mean, it's just like there's so much benefit to Hedera. And I think that projects like N2 and Patches, your project, and Lance, what you're working on, and Legion Arts It's just like everybody's blossoming, and it doesn't really matter that there's a crypto winter or any of that stuff. I really think that we're just getting started. We really are. So, Nicola, thanks for coming back up. I wanted to give you a chance to just have some, final words for the community before we end our space. And thank you so much for coming, and please don't be a stranger, come back anytime you feel like discussing anything and be part of the conversation.

N2 Help & Solutions – Nicola - Founder
‍Yes, so first, thank you so much. How much time do I have for this conclusion? Just a minute or any much you want? Okay, no. Just coming back to what make Hedera special and so, and well, I don't know because I have not been in touch with a lot of community as you, but funny thing is that I'm trying to pitch also all concept to customers who are traditional consulting company and so, and I get feedback like, oh yeah, but you know this concept of tokenization and so, it's going to be to make the world very, awful because you are again to accumulate coins,  people will get, you know I get this kind of comment from people who don't know what we try to do where I personally believe we are going if we, if we really keep this decentralization mindset and having the idea that we could share the value and bring back the value where it comes from, the artist, even the people who create content and so, this is going to be great. And we have to keep the spirit of making a better place, and it's not always easy as we are all human, but I want to fight against these ideas that crypto is going to be,  used for bad use case only, you know, and I'm sure we said era, we are proving it every day. So thank you for everyone.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yeah, there's a, I'll send you the link, but just two weeks ago we had a discussion, based on what you were talking about on how to, uh, the fear of change in from web to companies into a web three. They have a, they have a fear of the unknown, a misinformation, you know, there's a lot of education that needs to happen, for them to sort of embrace what we know in the Hedera community to be the future.  maybe by hanging out with us a little more over here in spaces and in the community, and I hope that everybody reaches out to Nicola and welcomes him to the community, and if we all talk together and collaborate, I think you know, handling those kind of conversations may be beneficial to, uh, work with other people who have had them so we all lift it lift up the ecosystem together. And so, I thank everybody for coming. If anybody has any final words Thank you, Sai, for coming and all the Hedarians for coming. And if I'll let anybody speak, Charles, do you have any parting words or anything?

Hello Future Buzz – Charles
‍Honestly, I'm just listening. It was a great space. Excited to hear what Dragme Labs and Ethan, what y'all are doing. And into is a pleasure to learn what you're doing. I think solutions like that are going to be a backbone of web3, in general, you know, so keep up the good work, and yeah, I hope to hear more from you.

Hello Future Buzz – Elizabeth - Founder
‍Yeah, and Lance, you've been quiet. I know I don't know if you're available to speak now or not, but thank you for coming. Yeah, he's in the car, I think so. And Jim, it was nice seeing you again. Don't be a stranger and so we'll end that. We're only a minute over, but I really am very grateful for everybody to come, and we'll do this again real soon, like next week. So, hello future, thanks.