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In this Twitter Spaces hosted by Hashgraph Name, the collaboration with Unstoppable Domains, Hashgraph Name and HashPack is announced. Now you will be able to use UD domains to send and receive HBAR assets within HashPack. In addiiton, in this spaces, Dead Pixels Ghost Club also announces a unique collaboration with Unstoppable Domains where any DPGC holder will be able to receive a badge with UD.

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Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Welcome, everybody, to the 2023 first town hall for Hashgraph Name. Lots of big stuff happening. Just a reminder that there is a giveaway, and it'll be pinned in the in the spaces in a second. I'm just going to go through do some intros of who's joining us today. We've got people Hashgraph Name, Unstoppable Domains, Dead Pixels, and HashPack. I'll go first. On LED, your co-host for today, I’m the community manager for Hashgraph Name.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Absolutely, and sort of the way we do at companies, you know, you have something called Stand Up, and the way we do stand up in the mornings is you know, we typically go and then we pick someone, so I'd be excited to do that here. So, I'll go and I'll pick someone, and then when there's no more speakers, we'll just dive into it. I'm Nate, or Nostradamus, I'm the head of web3 at Pie-Fi. Pie-Fi, is the parent company for Hashgraph Name, and Upside Co-op, and we are super stoked to be here to be talking to these incredible guests here today. And I am going to pick Liz from Unstoppable.

Unstoppable Domains – Liz – Enterprise Partnerships
Oh, hi, everyone, I'm Liz. I work with Unstoppable Domains. I'm on our Enterprise Partnerships team, and I've been working with Hashgraph and HashPack on you know, some exciting news we're going to share. So, definitely honored to be here, and it's been really fun to collaborate with you all. So, thanks for having me.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Would you like to go ahead and pick someone, please?

Unstoppable Domains – Liz – Enterprise Partnerships
Oh, sure, my bad. I will pass it over to Phil.

Unstoppable Domains – Phil – Partner Content
Hey, everyone, thanks Liz. My name is Phil. I'm the partner content team over at Unstoppable Domains. I'm used to being on the other side of the hosting chair for these spaces, but it's always fun to hop on as a guest and kind of sit back and talk about web 3, Unstoppable, and the exciting news that we have coming up today. So, with that, I will kick it off over to Aaron.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Hey y'all, my name is Aaron Quirk. I'm a developer at Unstoppable Domains. Been really fun diving into the Hedera ecosystem these past couple months. So, excited to talk to everybody today, and I'll slide over to May.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Hello, everybody, this is May from HashPack. I'm the CEO of the team, and we are the leading wallet on Hedera. I'm super excited to be here because I've worked with all of the people here on the panel for quite a long time. Unstoppable Domains especially, I'm excited about because we were in talks way back. I think even in at the beginning of 2021 when HashPack was just starting, and we were discussing ways to get domain names onto Hedera. And now here we are today. So, really excited to get into this talk and talk about what's to come. And I think the last person on the list is Will.

Dead Pixels Ghost Club – Wil - Founder
Thanks, May. I, I feel like I'm getting picked last for the basketball team. Thanks, guys. I'm stoked to be here. My name is Will. I'm one of the team members for Dead Pixels. I'm really excited about this conversation. You know, it's always exciting when big player come into the Hedera ecosystem, and Unstoppable Domains is undoubtedly a big player in the web 3 space, so this is really exciting for us. I can't wait to hear more from this conversation.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
All right, thanks, everybody. Just a couple of community shout-outs before we get into it. Just like to thank Sneakers, the Hashgraph Name mod in a Discord, Patrick Woo Sam whose NFT explorer which is a great utility on Hedera and also Patches of Turtle Moon, and Hashgraph IO, and also Aaron Quirk, you know, for just getting into it with us, getting into the weeds, and helping us with the Integrations. I think we'll, start off with Unstoppable.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Before we did that, should we make we should make the announcement and then get into it.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Yeah, yeah, go for it.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yeah, and you know honestly, I would love to share the love in this situation. Who from Unstoppable, you know, wants to give wants to like make the big announcement. Liz, go ahead.

Unstoppable Domains – Liz – Enterprise Partnerships
Yeah, sure, I'm happy too. So big news for Hedera fans, we have partnered with Hashgraph and Hedera, or Hash Pack, so Hashgraph Name now supports Unstoppable Domains. So this is huge, and so what that means is you can now use your Unstoppable web 3 domain as your digital identity and you can use that within HashPack wallet to easily send and receive hbar and Hedera nfts like Dead Pixels. So you can use that now and that's super simple to set up. So that's the big announcement and definitely open for questions as well if anyone has questions about how it works. Phil and I are here, Aaron is here, so we're so excited about this to collaborate and have this live. So, yeah, that's the news, we're so excited.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Heck yeah, and you know, Unstoppable, you know, you guys are you guys are really hard working and really modest, but this is, there are some big implications of this. So we have been talking to community members for a while about decentralized profiles and decentralized logins on Hedera, and so, yes, as of right now, HashPack can resolve Unstoppable Domains, and we're we are so stoked about that. But HashPack, collectively Hashgraph Name and Unstoppable, you know, are also collaborating and ready to deliver decentralized login and profile data for every Dapp on Hedera. So now, for free, every Dapp on Hedera can implement Unstoppable's API and Unstoppable's login and decentralized profile process and just get like the sleek professional look that comes with you know anything that Unstoppable delivers. So you know, we're incredibly stoked about that. We'd love to, we'd love to, take the time to invite people to ask questions about it, but also I'd love to go around the panel real quick and just you know, get everybody's thoughts about you know, the process that we've been going through, but also how you feel about the future of this partnership.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Yeah, let me go first just because I'm not exactly, in the weeds with you guys. I'm kind of an observer for most of this. I sat on the sides. I kind of had a bit of a voice in the community when we were starting to introduce domain names into Hedera, and I've always been a big proponent of looking to the future, looking to the big picture where we're not just Hedera, a Hedera community that is siloed out for everyone else, but that we're actually thinking about how we're integrating into the bigger crypto ecosystem and how we're going to, you know, live with everybody else because no one benefits if we're all siloed into each individual L1 and we are just like Maxis of our own chain or whatever. This is really, it's really important for us to be able to work with other chains and work with other companies that are building on these other chains and Unstoppable is great and the fact that Hashgraph.name has worked out this partnership is absolutely amazing. Actually blew my mind when I first heard of it like a few months ago. But we are now, working towards a future where you know with Unstoppable Domains you have a profile that just works across multiple domain multiple l1s and eventually you don't even have to worry about which app which L1 you're actually working with, which one you're interacting with because your profile is the same across all of them and I think that that's really exciting and something that I'm really happy that Hedera through Unstoppable Domains and through Hashgraph.name partnership together will like step into and you know be a part of this bigger ecosystem. I think that's just fantastic.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Absolutely May thanks for charming in.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Unstoppable, we'd love to hear from you guys about what you know, what has like getting into the Hedera ecosystem been like for you guys. What do you think of Hedera's community in our Tech, you know what are you excited about too?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Oh, I'll go. Yeah, so it's funny my journey with Hedera has been pretty pretty long. When I first got into being a user of crypto, this was about I don't know this time last year. I'm pretty new to the space, and when I first started thinking about what would it look like to like make an nft, Hedera was the first place that I visited, and that's mainly because the company I worked for, IBM, at the time was very involved with Hedera as a validator, and so I had kind of heard about Hedera through my work and so they were the first place I landed and so I started investigating about Hedera. I really liked the way royalties are enforced for NFT transfers on-chain, because that's something that most blockchains don't have. It's something that's enforced by the marketplaces or has to be enforced at a higher level and it's become a real problem lately, more and more on the different chains. So, I think that is a really cool part of Hedera is that the royalties are a first-class citizen and even a transfer NFT wallet to wallet you can ensure that the creator is getting their dues back as defined when the NFT is minted. So, I think that's a really unique aspect of it and I'm really excited to bring our our stack from Unstoppable to Hedera. And I think May said it really well that brand will bring your identity from chain to chain and across the metaverse is really important. So, that's our vision is that kind of cross-chain is the way and you shouldn't be tied into one place, you should be able to bring your data with you wherever you are at the time and whatever makes sense. One of the ways we're doing that in a tangible way is we've been working with our friends of the Dead Pixels and we've created a badge that you can get on your Unstoppable Domains profile if you hold a Dead Pixel and attach that Hedera address to your Unstoppable domain you can get a special badge. So, badges are really cool because they're a reflection of something you can achieve based on your on-chain activity. So, all the Dead Pixels out there, if you want to try out this badge thing, kind of follow the instructions in the tweet and you can see how it works.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
You announced that very humbly Aaron, but I just want to let everybody know that's one of our big announcements, I think that's huge, one of if not the biggest NFT projects on Hedera doing a collaboration with Unstoppable, so stoked about it. Sorry, I cut you off Liz, go ahead.

Unstoppable Domains – Liz – Enterprise Partnerships
No, I was just going to say I'm so excited too to collaborate with the Dead Pixels, I love the Dead Pixels, I'm obsessed, so I don't change my pfp ever, but I did to celebrate, so I just changed mine to the Dead Pixels and love it so definitely super stoked about this. That's it, just here to hide the dead pixels too.

Dead Pixels Ghost Club – Wil - Founder
Thank you, Liz, and thanks. I'll just jump in real quick. You know, for us, this this is really exciting. You know, some people might hear badge and it doesn't sound like a big deal, but for us, you know, being in the Hedera ecosystem, we're really excited about this space because there's a lot of energy there. You know, the community is passionate and we're small but we're quickly growing. And it feels exciting and to have opportunities like this, where you know these big web 3 players and brands are integrating with Hedera, something that might seem as small as a badge for us, like the way we view that through branding, you know, we see the meta with NFTs and I think you know everyone is seeing the writing on the wall, it's becoming less and less about what chain you're collecting NFTs on, and just more about whether or not you collect NFTs and ad people having their collections and what communities they're part of and so these collectors that you know have Unstoppable accounts, you know, being able to jump into the Hedera ecosystem buy a dead pixels and then notice, "Oh, this is showing up on my badge as well." They connect with other people who have dead pixels, they can see who else are collecting them. That's actually pretty huge, and yeah, so we were really excited about it, really appreciative to build that partnership with you guys, and yeah, just really excited about this development.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
And this is really the way that that web3 is going, it's not just an NFT Project, dead pixels isn't just like a profile picture that you put on, it's a community, it's a bunch of people that believe in the same thing that are hyped about the same thing, that enjoy being around each other, otherwise, you wouldn't hold the dead pixel. And it's a way of connecting to those communities in a way that that is more meaningful than just other ways that that exist on the internet. When you like take into account the fact that we're all Anonymous, that we're all just like random strangers on the internet, but we have something that binds us and I think that as we go forward, these kind of proofs of ownership, proofs of being part of a community, are going to become more and more important to who we are as individuals. It's definitely a paradigm shift that I think is coming, one that we see in social media and stuff, where people are trying to relate to each other and trying to become part of communities together, but they don't really have a good way of showing that they are part of the community and so being able to show this with a badge, even though you know it seems simple, is actually I think going to be the way of the future and you know, just being able to do this on Unstoppable and pave the way I think is just fantastic and I'd love to see how we can build out this kind of utility and really give more ways for people to connect and show that they are part of these communities.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yeah, and to build on this, this idea about badges, we're super excited about badges because, you May, like you said, they seem small, but they're actually really powerful because, you know, for example, when you log in with Unstoppable and you use your, you know, Unstoppable Domain name to log into another Dapp, one of the things that Dapp gets back about your profile is what badges you hold. So, you know, if you're a dead pixel badge holder, the Dapp knows that, and it's actually, you know, for a Dapp to have to go and inspect the chain, you know, real time and say, like does this particular address hold a dead pixel right now in this point of time, it's kind of a big lift, and most dapps aren't going to want to deal with that, but for them to just be able to get a trusted source of information that says okay this this domain holds a badge, and so you know the Dapp could gate content, you know, based on what badges you hold, or you know, if you think about maybe, you know, entry to an event, if you hold a certain batch, now there's a lot of things you can do with them. So, you know, you can start to get creative.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
So Aaron, if I can just ask you a question real quick,  so like, let's say I have the ghost badge right, but you know, I'm logged into somewhere in the Ethereum ecosystem, can they get my badges over there too? Can I let people in Ethereum know that I may be here doing business but you can find me chilling on Hedera with smort?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
100%. Yep, no matter where you log in, you know, we give that Dapp all of your, you know, verified addresses that are part of your domain, as well as all your badges, regardless of what chain they're part of.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
I think that's unreal, Wil, can you confirm that this will make Smort happy?

Dead Pixels Ghost Club – Wil - Founder
This makes us more happy,  this makes Smort very happy, again this is to us, you know, I think across the Hedera ecosystem, you know, we think we're building something special here and we're all excited and I think this just is one more thing that adds to ways that we're going to gain visibility in the wider community and I think that there's a lot of really great projects here that are building great art collections and brands that this type of thing is going to be big for, you know, I think that the more that people are able to notice some of the great brands that are being built here, it's a win for the whole community and so yeah, it's just going to help with visibility, this could help with networking and yeah we're just really stoked about it, I don't want to derail the conversation too much, so, Nate, jump you know cut me off, but David can attest, LED can attest that I wascalling him last night, I'm not the most tech-minded, there's some sharp minds up here and unfortunately amongst our team, you're getting the least technical of the three, but I was wondering if someone could maybe break down, what it actually means this this partnership between Unstoppable and Hashgraph name and HashPack, what it means in terms of the domain that you're going to own on a Hashgraph name and how that's going to integrate so like when we say something resolves back and forth, you know? Maybe if we could just do like an 'explain it like I'm five' just briefly, not for me of course, but for people who are in the, I understand it completely, but maybe first, it doesn't that'd be great.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yeah, yeah, I'll feel this one. So, if anybody's never seen a site with Unstoppable login before, first, they look incredible. It's super clean, it's a really easy way for app builders to get at decentralized profile data, profile data about that person, and we actually will, you know, via the incredible help of Aaron, we will be releasing some videos to show how it works. But for any Dapp on Hedera that uses the Unstoppable API, which you know, I think it you have to say it again, is free to implement on your Dapp. With every Dapp that implements Hedera's Unstoppables API, you know, you will have a login and that login is connected with HashPack and it still allows you to sign in with HashPack. There is full integration there, but you'll be able to use you know Unstoppables clean login and type in nostradamus.hbar and it will pull up HashPack and you'll sign it and it will log you in just like you know a normal login with HashPack except now the app can show you all of the profile data that you want to supply to every app and most importantly none of the profile data you don't right, like and this all you know you can store all this data both on Unstoppable domains and on Hashgraph names. So when you set your profile information on Hashgraph name, Unstoppable domains, you know starting next week, it is going to pull that and you can log in with any Hashgraph name and you can log in as you know whichever persona you want to depending on what the Dapp is. So that's a little bit and we're going to be posting some videos but that's sort of the walkthrough of what this is going to look like and I think it's going to be super clean and easy to use for users and I think it is just going to be an invaluable resource, for app builders on Hedera.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
The videos are going to be great but they're also like what Nate said, it's actually pretty simple, and if you're already used to using HashPack on the Hedera network then it's just going to be a walk in the park. Unstoppable domains have integrated using Hash Connect, to just confirm your identity on Unstoppable domain sites so that you can just you know log in with your dot hbar domain or whatever it is and it's just super simple and same on the dapp side like it's all charged by HashConnect so there's nothing new to learn. I think it may be unstoppable domain has their own API but again it's going to give more access to your users for profile information and just make a more fleshed out and polished user experience for everybody. So super excited about that and so happy to be working with you guys.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Same over here too for sure, do we are running a little bit ahead of schedule LED, do you wanna, you know, if there's anybody out there who wants to ask a question, LED do you want to keep an eye on the requests and bring somebody up to ask a question? Absolutely guys, if you have a question, please raise your hand, I'll get you up as soon as possible. All right, I've got coffee, coffee become up any second.

Leemon Swap – Coffee – Head of Business Development
Hey, I'm coffee, I'm actually from uh Leemon Swap which is a DEX building on Hedera, and forgive my ignorance but I am like well, I'm not a super technical guy, so I wanted to ask um some fairly basic questions about the functionality when it comes to integrating Unstoppable just from a ux perspective, for a site that integrates the Unstoppable login. Does the user still need to approve transactions through the associated wallets or can they be accepted through the Unstoppable Plug-In or I don't know exactly how the login works?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yes, wonderful question, so the answer is yes, they still have to approve transactions on the you know the standard wallet, HashPack, the login with Unstoppable is more about onboarding the user into your app and knowing who they are like what wallet address are they and getting that that rich profile data that comes along with them without having to figure out how to look it up yourself, and so once you know who the user is and they're in your app, they're going to need to still sign any type of transactions that they would have, we're not going to proxy the transactions through Unstoppable in any way.

Leemon Swap – Coffee – Head of Business Development
Okay, so they would still have to interact with the wallets themselves, but it gives the Dapp the ability to have I guess however many wallets are associated with the login connected at the same time.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Exactly, yep, and so you know who the user is and a lot more information about them than just their wallet address.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Like if they hold a dead pixel right.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Exactly like wallet connect if you've ever used wallet connects somewhere else, that's all they're doing, so it's still through HashPack, it's just that Unstoppable domain says integrated HashPack too, so you're just still using that same HashPack connection.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Which means it's just that secure right like because you're not giving Unstoppable domains any sort of like jurisdiction over your key or anything like that, they don't have any power to affect your accounts, you're just connecting with them so that you have a better profile.

Leemon Swap – Coffee – Head of Business Development
Have you guys spoke to uh Hashport yet?

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
I actually met with Jesse this morning, yeah.

Leemon Swap – Coffee – Head of Business Development
Great love to see it, thanks guys, yeah.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Thanks for the coffee.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Do we want to let up one more person?

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Absolutely, I'll say patches has a requests.

Turtle Moon Tool – Patches - Founder
If you said anything like I was in the limbo, I couldn't hear anything.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
No, we're just we're uh we're waiting with bated breath on the man himself also for you know before patches is asked his question guys, everybody should like patches's stuff and follow patches because if too many people follow him he gets banned on Twitter.

Turtle Moon Tools – Patches - Founder
That legitimately happens, it really does. Thanks for the shout out, yeah, this is awesome news. I'm on Unstoppable domains right now, looking at it, and I can already see that if you wanted to add a badge, I can select Hedera, under the tab, so it's great to hear that this news and see that it's in you know production and I can interact with it as an engineer. So for Unstoppable domains, I'm a CEO of a company called Turtle Moon on Hedera and we have a platform called Turtle Moon dot IO and we do nft launches there, we just started launching DAO voting, we're going to extend our feature set, in the coming weeks with wallet signing, it, you know, right now we have HashPack integration with Unstoppable domains library, after someone connects with it, do I still have to have them log in through their HashPack wallet in order to have an ability to send them transactions to sign or is the connection with the wallet and the SDK allow me to take transaction bytes and send it through Unstoppable domains in which the user has already signed in through?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
So yeah, the answer is yes, the user still needs to have, you know, their the app is still going to need to have its own wallet connection to make transactions, so the login with Unstoppable is just going to get you that initial profile data about who the user is, what addresses they have, and so forth, we don't send any, you know, transactions back and forth through Unstoppable.

Turtle Moon Tools – Patches - Founder
So as a as a user experience, if I came to Mint an nft, let's say I'm Turtle Moon, I go to the minting page, I would, I guess can you describe the best user experience, like would they will log in with their HashPack wallet first and then we'd offer an ability to log in again with Unstoppable to get that profile?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
So, so the way it works is, you know, you, you go to an app and there's like a like a button that's like, you know, right now, it's like connect with wallet, right, that's usually what you see, but instead of that or maybe in addition to that, you would see a button that's like log in with Unstoppable and so they click that and either a pop-up comes up or a modal comes up that allows you to enter in your domain name, so it could be an H bar domain name, it could be one of the Unstoppable domain names that you have, and then to prove that you own that domain name, you're going to need to sign with a wallet which is going to be HashPack, right, if we're if we're working in the Hedera ecosystem, and so you sign, if you can provide the right, private keys to sign the sign-in message. Then, we pass back your profile data to the Dapp, and so at that point, like Unstoppable's pieces done. We've given you some profile data and authenticated who the user is, and so they kind of have like a session on your on your app. And then, if from that point, if you need to have them sign you know to do the mint to you know swap funds whatever. They're just going to use HashPack on your site to do that just like they would have before.

Turtle Moon Tools – Patches - Founder
Okay, cool. So this, this really is like a cross-chain identity, digital identity through private key ownership, awesome.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yeah, and we give you all of the data you know if they've got Ethereum addresses that have been verified, you know data from across the metaverse we give you all of that, you can pick and choose you know what things you want to use out of their profile.

Turtle Moon Tools – Patches - Founder
Thank you, yeah appreciate it.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
All right, if you don't have any more questions patches, I might go with a couple of questions from the community Discord. Uh ceo.hbar asks, does that mean does this mean that dot nft dot crypto and all other Unstoppable domains can transfer hbar in HashPack?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yes, you can do it right now, you know go and HashPack and send using an Unstoppable domain as long as that domain has defined a Hedera address. Which isn't in that pinned tweet I have instructions on how to do it. So, you have to you have to you know say which address goes with the Unstoppable domain.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
And like Nate said he's they're going to have videos as well for the normies Among Us, me included, I'm trying to do it now and I'm confused.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
We will be going ahead and posting all the videos across all socials and discords etc.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Awesome, is there is there another Community question LED?

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
I think that's it in this Discord. Give me one more second, no I think we're good what's up next mate.

Dead Pixels Ghost Club – Wil - Founder
This is just a basic curiosity question but I'm curious to hear how long this has been in the works like when you guys started exploring between the two this partnership.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
So we've been exploring this for several months now. I mean you know we made the we made our initial um partnership you know we announced our initial partnership with unstoppable domains and the web3 domain Alliance like three to four months ago and we were talking a little bit before that and just in you know the December New Year time frame did we start you know talking about the technical implications and doing some cross-chain teamwork and stuff like that. Aaron or Liz would you guys like to speak to what you know uh what was going on your side when you guys when you guys started working on this.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
So it's funny it's kind of an interesting question it's been on my radar for a really long time and here's a little piece of alpha if anybody's familiar with Ashe Oro, he and I went to college together, so like we're long-time friends, and we kind of reconnected through web3. And so he works at Swirlds Labs, you know leading their nft strategy, so like him and I have been talking for like over a year just about Hedera and Unstoppable and ways we could collaborate, but you know nothing materialized right away, but kind of little by little pieces started falling into place, so that's kind of how like I got here and then I met May through Ash and then we met Nate and so you know the actual work I think probably in the December time frame I think I actually started like writing code so.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Heck yeah. I also I consider Ash a friend as well, so that's a cool connection to have. I talked to Ash regularly, he is one of my favorite hedarians.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yeah, he's a fun guy I have lots of lots of college stories about him and I.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Please do. Ashe showed me Unstoppable domains back last year and we actually visited the Unstoppable booth at consensus 2021 and at the time I was like well Unstoppable is great but we also have domain names being built on Hedera and if they want if we want to get Unstoppable in Hedera working together they also have to work with the domain name providers that are building and so you guys have done it and now we're here that's fantastic.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Absolutely lots of love around. Just one quick question for May are we going to have an Unstoppable dap integrated inside the HashPack wallet for people who'd like to log in through there?

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Yeah, I actually already just texted Pluto here and said hey haven't we have we started doing this and he was like I'm gonna look into it so yeah we are super excited to get that going.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Right right that's awesome.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
What do you think LED so it's I'm so stoked to have our Unstoppable friends here should we take you know five to seven minutes to make our final announcement and then we can you know have more panel talking and also have some more questions.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Yeah, absolutely, we've got so many um behemoths in the industry right here, I'd love to hear more from them if only go ahead Nate with a big announcement.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yeah absolutely so you know the first big announcement I think we all know what that is now the second big announcement is that smort is going interchain with with dead pixels badges and then we're really excited to make this final announcement too and we appreciate all the panel members being here and I hope you don't mind us taking time to make this final announcement that's you know more on the hashgraph name side but earlier this week pie-fi you know our parent company we published we co-published a white paper with Orrick a name brand law firm and one of the biggest law firms practicing crypto law and web3 law and KPMG one of the largest accounting firms in the world, on a new model for compliant community ownership in crypto. This is the first model that's truly community-oriented and truly allows communities to both buy and earn ownership in the projects that they care about the most post and you know we've announced this before so we won't spend too much time talking about this um but really excited to announce that hashgraph name will be one of the first projects on the upside and that everybody who has previously purchased or will purchase a hashgraph name will be among the first people in web3 to have true legal ownership in a tokenized project based off their purchases of those tokens. That is a huge announcement yeah I'd love to go around the panel again we can discuss the nuance of this we can discuss previous things I'd love to just open it up for you know another round of panel input.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Wait no, can you explain it again like I'm five years old please?

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yes, so um our platform um the upside Cooperative is TurnKey digital cooperatives so  you know just like daos.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Oh sorry that's already too many sorry no that's already too many syllables like.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Sorry just let me try let me try again let me try again hashgraph name we'll have a community on the upside and for your purchases previous or in the future any hashgraph names you purchased you will be rewarded in real ownership in the hashgraph name project real legal ownership and you will have a vote in what hashgraph name does and what it does in the future.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Okay, that was perfect thank you.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Just so everybody knows May is like a personal mentor of mine and so I am always sincerely appreciative of her helping me fine-tune my media game and any game.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Well the thing is like and I'm I think I speak for a lot of the audience here is when really smart people start using really big words my brain starts tuning out but I know what he's trying to say and he said it great and I just wanted to make sure everyone's hearing this is like hashgraph name and Pie-Fi or not Pie-fi, hashgraph name and upside Co-op they're being really web3 here where you buy a dot h bar domain you get ownership in it like they're doing they're doing real like decentralized ownership here and you can participate in it and I'm really excited about that I just wanted to make sure everyone hears that multiple times in multiple languages techie and normie as it were because it it's really cool.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Yeah could you explain why nobody has really done this yet like what was the idea that spurred going the route of a co-op in in like today's climate.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yeah absolutely so I think you know a lot of people in web 3 are familiar with the Dao movement and trying to decentralize organizations and companies and this, you know, we can issue tokens, you know, Doas can spin up and they can issue tokens. But you know, the technological model of Dao's until this point hasn't really been a good fit for any legal structures we have currently. And what's interesting is you know cooperatives are some of the oldest legal structures. And so you know we spent six to eight months working with Orrick and KPMG and it really took that time to comb through you know, you know things that happened in courtrooms like legal precedence, things that were filed that show that like, hey, this is okay and that's okay, and community can interact and have ownership and support in this way, but nobody had ever done this before and put it all in one paper and said, hey, this is you know, these are all these things that you know non-web three organizations already do. They already have precedent to support that, you know, hey, you know, via no action letters or via other means, you know, it's already been established that this is okay and that is, you know, we are bringing those web 2 we are bringing those you know web 2 legal building blocks that were established via cooperatives to web three, and so I hope that you know I hope that answers the question.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
They parted with one of the biggest accounting firms in the world and did it properly and then submitted all of the all of the paperwork to like members of congress and all of that crap like they had a big announcement earlier this week that had all of this in it and like it's so exciting to be here on Hedera and seeing all of these things being done like correctly and with the big picture in mind and like the rest of the crypto world and even Hedera like people in Hedera are scared of regulations because it's so like ambiguous but Nostradamus here has just done the leg work and we're now moving forward to building out these web3 friendly type of organizations but in a way that is like totally legal and you know fits with regulations it's great that's great.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Patches I thought you had your hand up earlier did you have a do you have a question or any input?

Turtle Moon Tool – Patches - Founder
Oh no I was gonna try to help you out with normalizing it for humans I think you killed it though.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Please everybody I do apologize and I'm getting better at this little by little I am a long time engineer and not a long time speaker of words so struggle is real so you know I appreciate you know I appreciate all the panel members allowing the time for us to make that final big announcement I'd love to open it up for you know any other panel discussion about any of the announcements and you know we'd also like to bring some people up so please send some requests to come up if you're interested in asking a question to the panel welcome.

Turtle Moon Tool – Patches - Founder
I don't have a question but during this entire call I've been investigating Unstoppable domains and at this point I have a personal concept working in the account page with integration so I would say that's a pretty slick SDK that you guys have and enjoying the web3 react demo code and it's not 100% working but yeah in 30 minutes the account page has a button that you can click and it kind of starts firing off the paths of kudos to the simplicity of that integration.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Nice humble break there patches, you're a genius.

Turtle Moon Tool – Patches - Founder
No, it's just a good SDK.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Built on hedera.hbar. Um, welcome up, do you have a question for anybody on the panel?

Community Member
Yeah, first off, first, I'll die to the party for having this integration, it means a lot for everyone else also in the H bar Community. But, I am probably the least intelligent person in this whole entire space, but I did want to try to sound as intelligent as possible by asking, with this badge that you're talking about, that other chains will be able to see, will this cost money, and if so, do we outright own this badge that we are carrying because I know that I'm a big fan of hashgraph name and you know every year you have to re certify your name you know, repurchase your name. I'm just curious to know what this badge itself do we own this wherever we go because I know Unstoppable names you can end up owning your own for a certain price. I'm sorry if the question doesn't make sense but uh in my little p brain I just wanted to ask that.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
No, that makes total sense, so first thing is that with an Unstoppable domain you just pay once, there's no renewal, so that that's the first piece of it, so you own your domain once you buy it. But the second piece about the badge is that the badge isn't really it's not like an nft like you don't it's not something to own at all, the badge is just a representation of something that you've done on chain, so in this case, the dead pixel badge just means that the Hedera wallet for your Unstoppable domain currently holds a dead pixel, if you transfer the dead pixel or you know, get rid of it then your badge goes away, so it just depends on your on-chain activity as the short answer to that about your badge status.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
So that I can't take it away, it doesn't charge you money, it's if you hold a dead pixel then it shows up on your Unstoppable domain profile, so it's just a bonus, yeah, exactly.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
I kind of like that because I can mix around where my nfts are, you know, and so you can you know this really goes in line with you know, what hashgraph name wanted in a decentralized profile, you may want multiple profiles where you know you sort of have one externally facing persona that you use for one thing and another externally facing persona that you use for another thing. You know, this is something that's been really important to us for a long time because I think you know the future of digital identity you know there will be cryptographically secure core identity, but that shouldn't necessarily be attached to the way you want to express yourself in any given situation and that's really what we've been striving to deliver at hashgraph name and that's why we're so thankful to Unstoppable for partnering with us and helping this  and helping bring this to market.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
So I have two things to say to add to that which is if I have multiple accounts, you know public facing one and a private one, that means that I have to have multiple dead pixels, doesn't it?

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
That is a, that would be a personal problem, no?

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
Yeah it's just a conundrum, right? My second one is just a question that I think a bunch of because we have such a vibrant Creator Community here on Hedera and not just like NFT projects but like real brands that are starting to look into web3 and start building on it and might be interested in doing the same thing that that pixels has done. So, for Unstoppable Domains, my question is, how would or are you open to other NFT projects or brands or things like that working together with them and adding badges to them and how would this happen?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
Yeah, so there's like a badge request form essentially, and so we approve badges on the regular, so it's just a matter of submitting and saying like what the criteria is for you know receiving the badge and then we kind of do some research and make sure that it's legit and then once it's approved it kind of goes live.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Awesome guys, so we will have we do have a hard stop at three because Hashgraph name and Upside Co-op will be moving over and we'll be a guest on the Hello future Buzz space which we you know also invite you to but we do have time for one more question so let's bring one more person up and we can hopefully you know make this value proposition even clearer to The Wider community. Welcome, welcome, what's your question?

Community Memeber
Hello, how you doing guys? It's it it was my turn or it was somebody else? Congratulations for both parties on the Integrations, I'm very new to hbar and Hedera so I was going to ask where do what is the marketplace for the Hedera domains and if we're going to be able to see on the future if this is something that probably I don't know because I'm very familiar with your ecosystem, I was wondering are we going to see a future like we're going we're going to be able to wrap the domains from each from Hedera and the domains from Unstoppable domains from the Hedera system into unstoppable into the ethereum system or any other um blockchain like a multi-cham marketplace where I'm gonna be able to wrap any of the domains?

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Yeah, so you so there's two places you know the two main places that you can get domain names on Hedera, you can get them at hashgraph.name and you can also get them on the secondary at Zuse.market so hashgraph.name is where you can get new domains and then Zuse  market is where you can see um existing domains that have been listed for sale if you join hashgraph names Discord too we're also happy to help you with any questions you have and then uh you know .hbar and the domains that we offer on hashgraph name are resolvers for Hedera. We intend to serve the Hedera community and maybe Unstoppable team, maybe you can talk a little bit about Unstoppable and what and what multi-chain naming service aggregation looks like and and maybe you can say it, uh, maybe I didn't say that in in the simplest way, maybe you guys can um explain you know where the future of this partnership could go and where your Partnerships with other chains could go.

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
I can take that one um so with an Unstoppable domain it basically allows you to attach you know hundreds of different blockchain addresses to the single domain and so that's the way we integrate cross chain primarily as you know we collaborate with just like we're doing right now with Hedera or any other blockchains so that we have you know Integrations and a footprint in those communities and then you know your domain works there because the address resolves to your Unstoppable domain and so I don't we haven't heard any talk about wrapping a domain like you don't really need to like transfer the domain physically between Chains. It's just that the domain needs to work and the different chains that you're working with.

Community Memeber
Thank you, oh, okay thank you Aaron so you're telling me I'm gonna be able to lease my domains on the same Marketplace of the H-bar and also in the future probably I wouldn't be able to lease my H-bar domains on opensea as well?

Unstoppable Domains – Aaron Quirk - Developer
I don't know about that I mean I think that the domain stays on the chain that it that it lives in so you know that's what Nate was saying the Zuse Market is the marketplace for Hedera at this time and that's where those domains are listed and opensea is the primary marketplace where you'd go and get Unstoppable domains. It just depends on you know what chains the marketplace supports if Zuse Markets started to support ethereum and polygon chains then obviously you'd be able to buy Unstoppable domains there and vice versa with opensea if they supported Hedera.

HashPack Wallet – May Chan – Co-founder & CEO
I'd also just like to say welcome to Hedera and if you want to know more about the community here and figure out more what's going on in the ecosystem you can always go to the hashpack website at hashpack.app/community and we've got a list of all of the big projects on Hedera all the things that are going on nft projects, marketplaces, swaps you name it it's on there so that would be a great place to get started and just see what's all the fuss about.

Hashgraph Name & Upside Co-op – Nate Western – Head of Web3
Absolutely, thanks May. Hey, so guys we have two minutes left, I just want to thank all of our panelists for joining us today, LED I believe I believe LED has strong arm dust into giving away some free stuff and so uh the spaces will stay around so that led can finish off the raffle and I just could not be more thankful to be working with Unstoppable domains and HashPack, Dead Pixels, patches, thank you for all your support, you know this has been incredible and it's only going to get better, this is just the beginning guys and now we're now we're making sure that you're going to build it with us so we'll see you soon.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
Thanks for joining everybody. The giveaway will be pinned under the spaces, so if you just go in there we'll give we'll leave it open for a couple more hours if you haven't entered you can do so and then we'll be drawing the winners, there'll be 16 winners, thank you.

Unstoppable Domains – Liz – Enterprise Partnerships
Thank you all so much too for your partnership, Hashgraph name, HashPack, Dead Pixels, it's super exciting to be beginning our footprint with the Hedera ecosystem and to continue our Partnerships. If anyone ever has any questions about Unstoppable domains or your profile or anything please reach out to myself, Phil or Aaron, send us a DM, we're happy to help you. Very excited and also very appreciative for Hashgraph name to be a part of our web3 domain Alliance as well, this is an initiative we're doing to make sure that you know there's protection around naming and like blockchain domains within our industry, to protect consumers, educate them, and to make sure that you know we're protecting intellectual property as well. So that's a really big important movement that we're kind of spearheading in partnership with other naming services so thank you so much for that as well.

Hashgraph Name – LED – Community Manager
All right, thanks again, everybody for joining, special thanks to our community, who have helped us grow and encourage everybody to just keep building you know, the midst of the bear market, it's probably uh hitting everybody but uh we're here building anyway. Also thanks to KPMG and Orrick, Upside DAO family, Upside Co-op family, sorry Phil, Johnson, Elizabeth Morrison, Aaron Quirk, thanks again Dead Pixels, Will Ray Raff, and of course Smort. Thanks guys.

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